tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post1997343920771228274..comments2023-08-23T10:35:10.653-05:00Comments on Fumbling About In The Dark: Violence Against Women And Blind Rage Against MenMiss Shuganahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13200157646397610173noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-2077919890412078562011-12-23T10:24:13.170-06:002011-12-23T10:24:13.170-06:00Genital mutilation shouldn't be a humorous sub...Genital mutilation shouldn't be a humorous subject when done to anybody. <br /><br />I wouldn't go as far as call them misandrists, but I would call them spineless. It's kind of like the good old boys except that it's women talking maliciously about men. Some laugh uncomfortably.Miss Shuganahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200157646397610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-78449292126479268792011-12-04T12:02:58.352-06:002011-12-04T12:02:58.352-06:00Genital mutilation is such a humorous subject -- w...Genital mutilation is such a humorous subject -- well, at least when it's done to men. I'm glad that at least one woman on the panel stated that there was a sexist double standard. That suggests to me that many women who engage in such humor do so carelessly, not maliciously. Other women are making these jokes and the men aren't complaining so the jokes must not be offensive. The other women know that it's wrong and do it anyway. They are misandrists.Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16650713085341638421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-34172163888758317252011-08-05T12:04:53.595-05:002011-08-05T12:04:53.595-05:00That's great, Sean. I will check out your lin...That's great, Sean. I will check out your link, but I do think you get it better than most feminists I have encountered who think that women need to be strong and ruthless the way men are.Miss Shuganahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200157646397610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-49511103230843131252011-08-03T10:58:28.756-05:002011-08-03T10:58:28.756-05:00You are right about raising gentler boys. If we co...You are right about raising gentler boys. If we could break from the socio-emotional box that boys are nurtured within; the one that sees Darwin as the primary influence in a game of dominance where only the strong (dominant) ultimately prevail, and embrace the natural vulnerability we all have as young children as an even more important "strength," perhaps we would be well on the road to shifting that paradigm.<br /><br />We're doing our small part in Red Deer, AB through this project http://reddeergrowboys.blogspot.com/... would be interested in your POV.<br />Cheers,<br />SeanSeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17898902767993372053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-26931675593762066822011-07-23T22:33:53.671-05:002011-07-23T22:33:53.671-05:00The other part of this too is can children differe...The other part of this too is can children differentiate between pretend violence and real violence? I am not talking about Wile E Coyote holding up a sign while falling off a cliff. I am talking about video games where people kick the crap out of each other. <br /><br />Yes, the power differential exists, but we need to still address both the rights and the needs for human dignity. No one deserves to be mutilated regardless of what they may have done. This particular act of violence was premeditated and unspeakable. To say "that'll teach him," as the audience member said is to assume that this particular man needed to learn a lesson.<br /><br />What lessons do we learn if we let these reactions go unchallenged? <br /><br />We shouldn't condone violence to anybody for whatever reason. Blood lust. Vengeance...none of it is acceptable.<br /><br />And, remember, some of those children are boys who grow up to be men. If we want to have a shift in the paradigm then we need to start raising gentler boys who learn that violence is only a last resort and only self defense. <br /><br />As with all conflict someone somewhere needs to break the cycle.Miss Shuganahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13200157646397610173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5777327999504801937.post-28033461789907305492011-07-23T21:11:25.267-05:002011-07-23T21:11:25.267-05:00Violence is so matter of fact in our culture that ...Violence is so matter of fact in our culture that we seldom take the time to reflect that it could be different if we made other choices. My son was worried in 1st grade that he and one other child were the only ones in a class of 24 whose parents didn't "spank" them. He couldn't imagine the idea of parents hitting their children.We grow our own victims of violence beginning with children in the cradle. No surprises that the victims grow up to become perpetrators. <br /><br />There are examples of physical violence in so many learning spaces - the mall, movies, the news - that it's become part of the lifestyle of the country, I fear. <br /><br />You speak poignantly to physical violence as being a cultural behavior that crosses the gender gap. At the same time, the power differential still says that women and children will far more often be the victims of violence from men. But, it doesn't have to be. It's what people choose to do.Pamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17407082081896465942noreply@blogger.com